No.1247 (BM)

No.1247
Bosko Miloseski
(Macedonia)

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No.1247 Bosko Miloseski
Macedonia

original – 11.11.2017

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white Kf1 Gb2 black Kh1 Ga1g2 Ph2

h#3             b) Gb2→a2            (2+4)
Grasshopper b2, a1, g2


No.1247.1 Bosko Miloseski
Macedonia

version of No.1247 – 20.11.2017

Solutions: (click to show/hide)

white Kf3 Gg7 black Kh1 Ga1g1h2h8

h#3             b) Gg2→b2            (2+5)
Grasshopper g7, a1, g1, h2, h8


7 Responses to No.1247 (BM)

  1. Anticipated by (in my opinion better):

    Achim Schoneberg
    469 harmonie 56, December 1998
    White : Kf1 Pg2h2 Ga2b2
    Black : Kh1 Ga1
    (2+1 grasshopper)
    h#3*
    0.1.1.1.1.1 + 2.1.1.1.1.1

    * 1…Gc2 2.Gc3 Gc4 3.Gc5 Gc6#

    1.Ga3 Ga4 2.Ga5 Ga6 3.Ga7 Ga8#
    1.Gc3 Gd4 2.Ge5 Gf6 3.Gg7 Gh8#

  2. Seetharamanseetharaman says:

    With setplay too, the precedent cited is definitely a better example. Pity it is no longer possible to compose simple ideas in fairy field !!

  3. shankar ram says:

    Help play seems redundant. Works as a direct mate too! As a direct mate, there may be older forerunners…

  4. Kostas Prentos says:

    I am not sure I agree, but shankar ram’s last comment made a strong impression to me: Given a choice, a direct mate is preferable to a helpmate, when the content is comparable! As far as anticipations go, I would also consider a transcription between genres with skepticism when the core idea is the same. But, is the direct mate form superior to the helpmate and if so, on what basis?

    • Ladislav Packa says:

      The idea is attractive, so it is not unusual if processed in several genres. My own problem, Pravda 2013
      Kc1 Ge7 (2) – Ka1 Gh7 Pa2 (3) #6*: *1…Gd7 2.Gc7 Gb7 3.Ga7#, 1.Kc2 Gb1 2.Kb3 Gb4 3.Kc2 Gf8 4.Kc1 Gd6 5.Gc5 Gb4 6.Ga3#
      But anticipated by Wolfgang Pauly, Deutsche Märchenschachzeitung 1931 (!) :((
      Kc1 Gc4 (2), Ka1 Gd3 Pa2 (3) 5#*: *1…Gb5 2.Ga6#, 1.Kc2 Gb1 2.Kb3 Gb4 3.Kc2 Gd4 4.Kc1 Gb4 5.Ga4#

    • Dmitri TurevskiDmitri Turevski says:

      Why the unorthodox forms (helpmates/selfmates/fairies) were invented and employed in chess composition historically?
      If to show conceptions otherwise unachievable, then the answer to your question is “on the basis of economy of unorthodox means”.

  5. Kostas Prentos says:

    Good point, Dmitri. Yet, the real question is: Are helpmates unorthodox? Although they were “invented” after direct mates and studies and for a long period of time they were considered fairy problems, is this still the case? In other words, is the idea that direct mates are the only orthodox problems outdated, or still valid? I doubt that any helpmate composer goes through the process of considering first if the idea he/she wants to show can be done in the orthodox direct mate form, before attempting to show it in a helpmate.

    In the case of this problem, we can safely discard historical and other considerations about orthodox problems vs. helpmates, since a fairy piece is used. As a fairy problem, would it be better to show this content as a direct mate, instead of a helpmate? Or is the historical priority of direct mates somehow transferred to the fairy genre, too?

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