No.509-509.5 (HG,HG&PR)

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No.509 by Henryk Grudziński – A problem by a noted Polish master of Retro and PG genre. An interesting position in PG13 created with Pawns only! (JV)

No.509.1 by Henryk Grudziński – An improvement to No.509 after comment by Paul Rãican! (JV)

No.509.2 by Henryk Grudziński – One more improvement to No.509! (JV)

No.509.3 by Henryk Grudziński & Paul Rãican – One more version of the complicated idea shown in No.509. Nice to see the joint work! (JV)

No.509.4 by Henryk Grudziński & Paul Rãican – Correction of No.509.3 after a cook was found by Nicolas Dupont! This problem involves more and more people! (JV)

No.509.5 by Henryk Grudziński & Paul Rãican – One more improvement to the initial idea! Authors mention it is partly checked. (JV)


Take & Make: Having captured, a unit must immediately, as part of its move, play a non-capturing move in imitation of the captured unit from the capture-square. If no such move is available, the capture is illegal. Promotion by capture occurs only when a pawn arrives on the promotion rank as the result of a take&make move. Checks are as in normal chess: after the notional capture of the checked K, the checking unit does not move away from the King’s square.

No.509 Henryk Grudziński
original – 07.03.2014
509-PG13-hgPG 13                                      (7+7)  С-
Take & Make
Solution: (click to show/hide)
No.509.1 Henryk Grudziński
version of No.509 – 26.03.2014
509.1-PG17,5-hgPG 17,5                                  (7+7)  С-
Take & Make
Solution: (click to show/hide)

No.509.2 Henryk Grudziński
version of No.509 – 03.05.2014
509.2-PG9,5-hgPG 9,5                                (12+12)  С-
Take & Make
Solution: (click to show/hide)
No.509.3 Henryk Grudziński & Paul Rãican
Poland / Romania
version of No.509 – 06.05.2014
509.3-PG9,5-hg-prPG 9,5                                (11+12)  С-
Take & Make
Solution: (click to show/hide)

No.509.4 Henryk Grudziński & Paul Rãican
Poland / Romania
version of No.509 – 08.05.2014
509.4-PG9,5-hg-prPG 9,5                                (11+12)  С-
Take & Make
Solution: (click to show/hide)
No.509.5 Henryk Grudziński & Paul Rãican
Poland / Romania
version of No.509 – 19.05.2014
509.5-PG11-hg-prPG 11                                (12+12)  С-
Take & Make
Solution: (click to show/hide)

7 Responses to No.509-509.5 (HG,HG&PR)

  1. Paul Raican says:

    Unfortunately, demolished by: 1.Sc3 Sc6 2.Sd5 Sd4 3.Sxe7=>Se6 Sxe2=>Se3 4.Sxf8=>Sc5 Sxf1=>Sc4 5.Sxd7=>Sd5 Sxd2=>Sd4 6.Qxd4=>Qf5 Qxd5=>f4
    7.Bxf4=>Bh6 Bxf5=>Bh3 8.Sxh3=>Sd7 Sxh6=>Sd2
    9.0-0-0 0-0-0 etc.

  2. Nicolas DupontNicolas Dupont says:

    Nice cooking line, Paul!

    Indeed, a lot of captures in T&M is very dangerous, as this condition allow capturing pieces to reach several different squares during the second part of their moves.

  3. Paul Raican says:

    For 509.1 I found hardly a cook: 1.Sf3 Sc6 2.Se5 Sd4 3.Sxd7-Sd5 Sxe2-Se3 4.Sxe7-Se6 Sxf1-Sb5 5.Sxf8-Se7 Qxd2-Qd3 6.Bh6 gxh6-c1=Q! 7.f4 Qxb1-Qc3+ 8.bxc3-e5 Qb3 9.axb3-d5 Bg4 10.Ra6 Bxd1-Bd2+ 11.Kxd2-c1 Kxe7-f5 12.Rg6 hxg6-a6 13.Re1 Rh3 14.gxh3-h6 Sf6 15.exf6-h7 Re8 16.Rxe8-Re6 a5 17.Rc6 bxc6-a6 18.d6.

  4. Paul Raican says:

    509.2: Alternative game 1.e4 b5 2.Bc4 bxc4-f1=B! 3.Qe2 a6 4.Qxa6-a5 Bc4 5.d3 Rxa5-d5 6.Bh6 gxh6-c1=S! 7.Se2 Sxe2-g3 8.dxc4-e2 Sf1 9.exd5-d2 d5 10.Kxf1-f3. Sorry, Henryk.

  5. Nicolas Dupontdupont says:

    The first black move is very dangerous as it is a waiting move. It seems one can play instead 1.e4 g5 2.Ba6 bxa6-f1=S and 7.Bf4 gxf4-c1=B

    Maybe there is a chance for correctness with a visible black move on the diagram position, e.g. 1.e4 h5 2.Ba6 bxa6-f1=S, and same continuation than in the intended solution.

  6. Paul Raican says:

    The version 509.4 is cooked too: 3. …Sf1-g3 4.Sg1-h3 a7-a6 5.Qe2xa6-a5 Sg3xh1-g1 6.d2-d3 Ra8xa5-f5 7.Bc1-h6 g7xh6-e3 8.f2xe3-e2 Sg1xh3-g5 9.e4xf5-f2 Sg5-e4 10.d3xe4-d2.
    Must find something shorter….

  7. Paul Rãican says:

    509.5 still cooked by 1.d3 (Tempo) d5 2.d4 Bh3 3.gxh3-c8=Q e6 4.Qxb8-a6 Sh6 5.Bxh6-f5 Ba3 6.bxa3-f8=Q Kxf8-b4 7.e3 exf5-d7 8.Bc4 Qg5 9.Qe6 fxe6-e7 10.f4 dxc4-f7 11.Sd2 Kc3. (Dirk Borst)

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