Julia's Fairies

No.1540 (MS)


No.1540
Manikumar S
(India)


(v) 1540.1 Manikumar S (India)


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Original Fairy problems
JF-2020-II:
01.07.2020 - 31.12.2020


Definitions / Определения


No. 1540 Manikumar S
India
original - 13.09.2020

white Kh2 Bf5h6 black Bd1d4 Kd8
h#2            2 solutions            3+3
Anti-Köko
b) Bf5->d3

Solution: (click to show/hide)


No. 1540.1 Manikumar S
India
version of No.1540 - 20.09.2020

white Kh2 Bf5h6 black Bd1d4 Kd8
h#2            2 solutions            3+3
Anti-Köko
b) Bf5->f1

Solution: (click to show/hide)



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Joost
Joost
September 13, 2020 22:21

Position in b) is illegal in Anti-Köko. Why not have twin f5->f1 with the same solution?

seetharaman kalyan
seetharaman kalyan
September 17, 2020 16:14
Reply to  Joost

One composer took the view on an original submitted by him –. that the fairy condition applies to the diagram and unless retro play is involved legality of the position is an issue

dr_manikumars
dr_manikumars
September 17, 2020 16:42

Thank you for the clarification sir.

Seetharaman
Seetharaman
September 18, 2020 02:04

# not an issue

dr_manikumars
dr_manikumars
September 17, 2020 16:47
Reply to  Joost

Thank you sir. True that moving the f5 bishop to either f1 or a6 has the same solution and solves the issue. And Seetharaman sir’s clarification looks convincing too. Strange that even such apparently open miniatures too can be illegal with this condition!

Previous composed examples on this condition too haven’t thought in this angle it seems.
https://www.yacpdb.org/#search/ODg4ODg4ODgvLy8vLy8vLy8vL0FudGlrb2VrbywgLy8vMS8xLzEvMA==/1

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Marjan Kovačević
Marjan Kovačević
September 18, 2020 00:06
Reply to  Joost

Without thoughts about legality I regretted the twin broke the social distance of all the play. It seems to me simply nicer to keep the distance with a twin like the one suggested by Joost.

Kostas Prentos
Kostas Prentos
September 18, 2020 03:54

It is true that legality is not required in problems with fairy conditions or pieces, unless they have a retro element. In this case however, avoiding illegality is free and therefore preferable. If it were my problem, I would take Joost’s suggestion without a second thought.

dr_manikumars
dr_manikumars
September 19, 2020 21:09
Reply to  Kostas Prentos

Nice to know these. I’d too definitely love to have the twin at f1 instead of d3,Thank you all for the comments!

gani ganapathi
gani ganapathi
September 17, 2020 15:14

Pl. see Joost’ Comment.

S. K. Balasubramanian
S. K. Balasubramanian
September 17, 2020 19:11

I am not sure which is legal & which is not legal with some fairy conditions. For example, if the legality is strictly applied then no problem with PWC fairy condition can exist without all 32 pieces on the board.
I have a feeling that for fairy problems the legality need not be applied for the diagram position. But it is only my opinion.
There are many fairy experts who can clarify this.

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