No.1622
Aleksey Oganesjan
(Russia)


(v) 1622.1 Aleksey Oganesjan & Sergey Shumeiko (Russia)

Original Fairy problems
JF-2021-I:
01.01.2021 - 30.06.2021


No. 1622 Aleksey Oganesjan
Russia
original - 12.06.2021

black Pb2g3d6 Kf3 Ra4a6 white Ra2 Qh3 Bg5 Kb5 Sf6
hs#2            4 solutions            5+6

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No. 1622.1 Aleksey Oganesjan &
Sergey Shumeiko

Russia
version of No.1622 - 25.07.2021

black Qg1 Sf1 Pa2 Bh5 Kc5 white Ke1 Rb4b6 Bg8 Qb8
hs#2            4 solutions            5+5

Solution: (click to show/hide)


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Seetharaman
Seetharaman
June 14, 2021 10:30

Neat idea to differentiate queen promotion !

Luce
Luce
June 14, 2021 16:49

Congratulations Aleksandr for this nice improvement ! AUW is always an important theme in help genres.
Sebastien

Luce
Luce
June 14, 2021 16:51

Sorry Congratulations Aleksey ! 🎖

shankar ram
shankar ram
June 14, 2021 17:52
Reply to  Luce

Sebastian, You can edit your post (provided nobody has replied to it!). No need for a “correction post”!
This requires a delicate mouse dance: move your mouse to the lower right of your post. Click the Gear icon(“Manage Comment”) when it is visible. Then click the “Edit” label.

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Daniel Papack
Daniel Papack
June 14, 2021 20:47

It’s easy to tranform an age-old s#2 to show the hackneyed AUW in a hs#2.
For example: Alain C. White, The Pittsburgh Gazette Times, 1916 (!), Variation D. Papack;
Ke5, Qh8, Rd6, Rh2, Ba2, Ba3, Sb5 (7); Kc2, Qf7, Ra5, Rc8, Bb8, Bg2, Se6, Pc3, Pe2 (9);
hs#2, 4 solutions.

Aleksey Oganesjan
Aleksey Oganesjan
June 14, 2021 22:52
Reply to  Daniel Papack

Initial Alain’s problem – https://yacpdb.org/#262521
In hs#-genre there are very strict requirements to loading of both White and Black pieces in each solution (see an article of P. Petkov – https://juliasfairies.com/articles/pap-hs-its-very-interesting).
But in your hs#-“variation”, except completely technical bRc8 and partially technical bSe6 (that is necessary only in two solutions), there are three (!!!) fictitious pins – two Black and one White – that are unnecessary in two or three solutions. It can be forgiven in s# but it is unacceptable in hs#!

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Daniel Papack
Daniel Papack
June 14, 2021 23:38

The black AUW in a hs#2 is a simplified s#2. 100 years later I’m unable to see
any intrinsic value.

jamesmalcom
jamesmalcom
June 15, 2021 04:00
Reply to  Daniel Papack

Then the Babson task has no intrinsic value in the way you put it. All chess problems, published and unpublished, consume time to create. Chess problems and puzzles are a centuries old art and hobby; every diagram created has value to someone, somewhere.

Aleksey Oganesjan
Aleksey Oganesjan
June 15, 2021 07:14
Reply to  Daniel Papack

Since hs#2 has four solutions, it means that White execute four first moves and four second moves. So hs#2 is a transformed s#3 (not s#2!).

But s#3 strongly differs from hs#2 – Black opposes on 1st, 2nd and 3rd moves, while in hs#2 Black oppose only on 2nd move.

And after all: transformations of the same ideas from one genre into another always deserve an attention! Otherwise it can be said: “Oh, Novotny theme was already realized in #2, so its realization in another genres has no intrinsic value”.

Seetharaman
Seetharaman
June 15, 2021 21:20
Reply to  Daniel Papack

Actually I have seen just two s#2s ( one of them by Milan Vikcevic) with different replies to four black promotions on the same square — without checking key. I don’t think it was done frequently.

Last edited 1 month ago by Seetharaman
luce
luce
June 15, 2021 12:18

Thank you M.Shankar Ram for the information.