Ali Okan Pandar

Original Fairy problems
01.07.2021 - 31.12.2021

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No. 1661 Ali Okan Pandar
original - 30.10.2021

black Bd1a5 Pf2e3f5d5c6c7 Sc3 Ke4 Rb8 white Kc1 Pd2
ser-#10                       2+11

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October 31, 2021 00:32

Interesting problem, but it is not an Albino !
An Albino is the four different moves of the SAME Pawn on its first rank.

October 31, 2021 10:01
Reply to  Luce

You are right sir. Call it pseudo-albino…

Giuseppe Lucchesini
October 31, 2021 10:38
Reply to  Luce

We Italians (from Rome), in such cases, use to say: “Sta’ a guardà ‘r capello”. It’s a “quasi-Albino”, ok, and it is wonderful 🙂

October 31, 2021 16:35

Dear Giuseppe Lucchesini,
in french we say : “appelons un chat, un chat !”
Do you think the following position is an Albino ?
White : Kh8h6 Ph7b2ç2f2h2 Black : Sa3d3 Ph5a4d4f4
ser-=4 ABC 1.b×a3 2.ç×d3 3.f3 4.h4=
Here are some examples of fairy white Albino published in Julia’s Fairies :
diags 725, 742, 752, 803 ….
But the problem of M.Ali Okan Pandar, “in the spirit of Albino theme” is interesting.

Geoff Foster
Geoff Foster
November 1, 2021 00:33

The problem has a lovely idea, much better than an Albino!

November 1, 2021 00:45

Please Geoff, don’t compare problems of different nature ! 🙂

shankar ram
shankar ram
November 1, 2021 05:58
Reply to  Luce

Leaving aside arguments about thematic validity, the idea is no doubt interesting. I seem to remember something like it was done before using Circe or a Circe variant. Here’s a recent one for comparison, from StrateGems, 2020:
a) 1.c3-b3 Sf3 2.Kg6 Se5 #
b) 1.c3-b4 Sf4 2.Kg5 Se6 #
c) 1.Kd6 Sxg3 2.b6-d5 Sf5#
d) 1.d7-d6 Sxe3 2.d6-f5 Sd5#
Is this a “true” WP4? (I’m avoiding the term which, along with its counterpart was the subject of a recent matplus forum discussion!)

November 1, 2021 09:44

Thank you M.Shankar Ram, to show diag.FA1852 of Stratagems. This time you can compare with diag.1661 of JF, as it is similar. But I prefer the problem of M.Ali Okan Pandar as it is WITHOUT TWINS, a important nuance.

Jacques Rotenberg
Jacques Rotenberg
November 1, 2021 14:26

I can’t really understand why it would not be an Albino.
It is a nice, clear, and original Albino.

Jacques Rotenberg
Jacques Rotenberg
November 1, 2021 21:28

@Shankar Ram
ok, wp4 is better, but hard to change habits!