VitoRalloNo.553
Vito Rallo 
(Italy)


No.553.1
Vito Rallo  (Italy) &
Seetharaman K.  (India)

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No.553 by Vito Rallo – A nice masked white Excelsior! (JV)

No.553.1 by Vito Rallo & Seetharaman K. – A joint problem by two authors as rather improved version of No.553 with two Excelsiors! (JV)


No.553 Vito Rallo
Italy
original – 07.06.2014
 
553-hs#6-vrhs#6                                              (3+7)
 
 
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No.553.1 Vito Rallo & Seetharaman K.
Italy / India
version of No.553 – 24.06.2014
 
553.1-hs#8,5-vr-skhs#8,5                                          (3+5)
 
 
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seetharaman
seetharaman
June 8, 2014 07:48

Nice idea. But, Is it not possible to have a black pawn c3 promoting to rook on c1? Now, Rh2 and Sf2 can both be replaced by a black pawn h5.

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 8, 2014 09:06

hm….. It can be a miniature.
white Pg6e2 Kg5
black Ph4g7 Ke6 Rd4
HS#6.5
Black pawn promoting on ‘h’ file is even better I think.

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 9, 2014 08:26

I think it will be possible to make the black moves also an Excelsior making the problem a double Excelsior. I found a slight modification of the scheme which will make it possible. If Mr.Vitaly wants I can send it to him, but the scheme still needs improvement.

Vito Rallo
Vito Rallo
June 10, 2014 20:29

Send it to me, we can do a join

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 11, 2014 10:02

Well… here is a possibility. You can make it as a 6.5 if you dont want the pawns masked ! http://prntscr.com/3rpacx

Vito Rallo
Vito Rallo
June 17, 2014 11:54
Reply to  seetharaman

Do you agree this ? If ok can send it as version to Julia

Vito Rallo & Seetharaman
White Pd6 Kg5 Pg2; Black Pd7 Ph7 Sc4 Pg4 Kh2
Hs#8,5 – (3+5) C+Popeye Windows-64Bit v4.67 (2548 MB)

1…Sc4*d6 2.Kg5*g4 Sd6-f7 3.Kg4-h5 d7-d5 4.g2-g4 d5-d4 5.g4-g5 d4-d3 6.g5-g6 d3-d2 7.g6-g7 d2-d1=R 8.g7-g8=Q Rd1-h1 9.Qg8-g3 + Kh2*g3 #
solution finished. Time = 1:25:48 h:m:

Double excelsior, double opening lines with pawn capture.

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 17, 2014 15:07
Reply to  Vito Rallo

Why not start with BSf7 & wKh5?

Vito Rallo
Vito Rallo
June 18, 2014 18:51
Reply to  seetharaman

With more moves can not control with winchloe and Fancy takes a long time.
Can you do it?

Vito Rallo
Vito Rallo
June 19, 2014 11:42
Reply to  Vito Rallo

with Bsf7 & wKh5 we have the same solution. I think it’s just a matter of taste.

Александр Швиченко Alexandr Shvichenko
Александр Швиченко Alexandr Shvichenko
June 30, 2014 10:33

Here is another version.
White Ph6 Kg5 Ph5 Pe2
Black Ph7 Ke6 Pc4 Re4
HS#7 C+
1.e2-e3 Re4-d4 2.e3-e4 c4-c3 3.e4-e5 Ke6-d5 4.e5-e6 c3-c2 5.e6-e7 c2-c1=R 6.e7-e8=Q Rc1-c5 7.Qe8-e6+ Kd5*e6#
There is only one black excelsior, but in 6 moves.

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 30, 2014 16:32

Thanks Alexandr. I made a similar suggestion in my second post. Miniature with white excelsior and black rook promotion!
white Pg6e2 Kg5
black Ph4g7 Ke6 Rd4
HS#6.5 1…h3 2.e4 h2 3.e5 Kd5 4.e6 h1=R! (h1Q?) 5.e7 Rc1 6.e8=Q Rc5 7.Qe6 + K*e6 #

petko petkov
petko petkov
June 30, 2014 17:24

The following Miniature is possible – with only 6 pieces and 2 Excelsiors with R-promotions:

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1.b4 f5 2.b5 f4 3.b6 f3 4.b7 f2 5.b8=R f1=R 6.Rg8 Rh1 7.Rg2+ Kxg2#.

I believe it looks better because there is no Q-promotion that is rather “obvious” in such positions. But in my opinion these Miniatures are in high extent mechanical because of monotonous Pawn’s moves to the promotion’s square… Therefore I think that the theme “Mechanical Excelsior” cannot be miracle in fairy chess through the fact that such problems are nice in optical aspect…

Ganapathi
Ganapathi
June 30, 2014 17:31

Petkov’s magic ever comes out in any position; just witness how the Q promotion gets replaced by the R!

petko petkov
petko petkov
June 30, 2014 18:05

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1 – 5 . b8=R c1=R 6.Rg8 Rh1 7=Rg2+ Kxg2#

Probably this position is even better, because here all Pawns have possibilities for moves, but in this case we must answer to the question: What role has Pc7? Of course for Excelsior because there are no time for other play…:)

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 30, 2014 19:27

Thanks Petkov.. I thought of something similar (not so economical!) but Vito Rallo seemed more interested in line opening for the excelsior pawns (though that does not make the solutions more difficult).

seetharaman
seetharaman
June 30, 2014 19:32
Reply to  seetharaman

My position was with the WP on the a-file hs#6.5. The rook promotion of the white pawn did not strike me !